Critics of today's major DEA drug bust at a San Diego college campus called the sting operation a "ridiculous, nonsensical waste of DEA resources."
Nadelmann said the DEA should prioritize major international violent drug trafficking groups over college students, the vast majority of whom he says do not go on to be drug addicts or dealers. "This bust could have happened at hundreds and hundreds of campuses across the nation."
Clipping to Still in School and Question Authority, it's a problem when the system punishes non-violent offenders more than violent ones, something I've seen first hand!
Will someone pelase tell me where I can get the list of laws that should not be enforced?
I have to agree with you. I can understand the outcry. I sympathize with the parents of these student. However the objective of any criminal activity is not to get caught. They got caught. Let the courts decide.
IndependentVoter hits the nail on the head here. I don't feel sorry for these kids parents, though, as Kokayi does. If any kid in a tough neighborhood can get busted for possession, I don't see why students in colleges should be exempt.
lighten up and light up!
I dunno, IndependentVoter. I went to Fort Funston yesterday, part of the Golden Gate National Parks. Apparently, it's also a well-known dog park, and it's rather beautiful.
Anyway, at the parking area where I parked my car, there was a sign with a picture on it showing a dog on a leash, and it said to leash your dog or pet. No one there had their dog on a leash, and I'm talking about 50 dogs. It's basically a dog park now, as I said, well known in the area.
Further investigation shows that citizen complaints have registered, and there's a hiatus on the leash laws there. Moreover, those dogs looked like they were having so much fun, it also makes me want a cat park for my cat. LOL! However, it also shows that citizen complaints do have an effect.
Many stupid laws appear on the books to this day. Dumblaws.com says, "We are dedicated to bringing you the largest collection of stupid laws available anywhere. Some of the strange laws that are still on the books will amaze you!" You really want to enforce the following? Moreover, California's their state in the spotlight right now.
Law No. 11 - Detonating a nuclear device anywhere in the city of Chino is punishable by a $500 fine. That's unenforceable. Has anyone seen Chino lately? How would anyone know if someone set off a nuclear device there?
Law No. 22 - The city of Los Angels has a ban on licking, making Los Angeles toads the most depressed toads in the country.
Law No. 39 - The entire state has a law against fondling or pinching produce in public places. Well, how else can we show that cute clerk at the grocery store that we'd like to go out on a date with her?
Here are a few more from the site:
Dominoes may not be played on Sunday.
It is illegal to wear a fake moustache that causes laughter in church.
Putting salt on a railroad track may be punishable by death.
Boogers may not be flicked into the wind.
It is legal to drive the wrong way down a one-way street if you have a lantern attached to the front of your automobile.
AND (more available at the site, these are from Alabama BTW):
Men who deflower virgins, regardless of age or marital status, may face up to five years in jail.
P.S. How about these six from Massachusetts?!?
At a wake, mourners may eat no more than three sandwiches.
Snoring is prohibited unless all bedroom windows are closed and securely locked.
An old ordinance declares goatees illegal unless you first pay a special license fee for the privilege of wearing one in public.
It is illegal to go to bed without first having a full bath.
A woman can not be on top in sexual activities.
Quakers and witches are banned.
LOL! I gotta post these from New York!
A fine of $25 can be levied for flirting.
The penalty for jumping off a building is death.
New Yorkers cannot dissolve a marriage for irreconcilable differences, unless they both agree to it.
A person may not walk around on Sundays with an ice cream cone in his/her pocket.
While riding in an elevator, one must talk to no one, and fold his hands while looking toward the door.
Slippers are not to be worn after 10:00 P.
It is still a matter of opinion.
Smoke should be legal.
Chemicals shout be illegal.
What is wrong with chemicals? THC is a chemical after all.
Also, what if someone can't smoke their cannabis?
Cannabis is natural
LSD, Speed, morphine and Heroin are chemicals.
I don't do either any more. 35+ years later.
These arguments are futile.
What is natural and what isn't.
The right will have their arguments.
The left will have theirs.
Neither will agree about the facts.
Figure it out yourselves.
LSD occurs naturally in certain molds that grow in wheat.
Morphine and Heroin are simply refined sap from the poppy flower.
Speed is prescribed en masse under the brand names "Adderall" and "Dexodrine" among others.
Psyillocybin mushrooms grow in cow dung.
Ecstacy (MDMA) was legal for years and was prescribed for a brief period by psychiatrists.
This is not a matter for government.
Figure it out yourselves.
Thank you.
Morphine and heroin are still refined.
LSD is still refined.
THC is natural and in the leaves.
BTW. The mushrooms also grow in the wild without cow dung.
Actually all parts of the poppy plant contain morphine and codeine.
And what makes Psyillocybin mushrooms alright, but LSD bad? Why is natural preferable to man made?
Two kilograms of cocaine were seized, along with 350 Ecstasy pills, marijuana, psychedelic mushrooms, hash oil, methamphetamine, illicit prescription drugs, several guns and at least $60,000 in cash.
Sounds like a waste of resources to me.
Any college campus can go through that on a Friday afternoon(if its nice out).
I'm not going to dispute that.
I'm not quite sure I understand the defense
"This bust could have happened at hundreds and hundreds of campuses across the nation."
Does that mean that it's not "fair" that it happened on this campus? So should we now do drug busts on all campuses? Since it's happening everywhere should we just do nothing to stop it? I'm confused as to what this statement is trying to say.
It is the if we can stop it everywhere, we should stop it nowhere stupid logic.
Obviously, this is just a frustration of still being persecuted for doing something that shouldn't be criminal in a free society.
The reality is that if you waved a wand and disappeared all the illegal drugs from these campuses, there would still be no shortage of mind-altering drugs. My personal experience is that half the kids I knew and know in college are on some kind of drug, be it some cocktail of anti-depressants or adderall (notably methamphetamine with dextro-methamphetamine...sound familiar? meth?) or xanax or good old alcohol. Colleges are swimming in it.
There may be a valid argument for eliminating drugs from colleges, I personally do not believe so. But whatever the opinion, one would do well to give an honest evaluation to the effect ALL drugs have. It is not a bad thing to consider that perhaps banning outright such things as marijuana and cocaine is a little misguided. Perhaps if we allowed such groups as the American College of Physicians to seriously research the effects of these things.....
I've heard that there's a place for everything, and it's called college. I know there were a couple of kids who overdosed that apparently sparked this investigation. My sympathies to their families.
I know lots of kids die of alcohol poison in college every year too. Again, tragedy. But maybe, just maybe, the most effective way of combating this is controlled exposure. Maybe there's another way. I'm not a big fan of Abe Lincoln, but he summed up the philosophy nicely:
"Prohibition will work great injury to the cause of temperance. It is a species of intemperance within itself, for it goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation, and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes. A Prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."
Now, if you consider that maybe these things are incorrectly prohibited, and that one day they may not be illegal, then is it unreasonable to feel dread that up until that day, people will be incarcerated for dealing in them? After all, isn't the point of law to punish those who do something wrong, not simply something illegal?
The change the laws.
Maybe the police should start further enforcing the investigation of rapes, murders, thefts, etc. and stop wasting precious resources on trivial issues. There are so many laws out there and so many worse lawbreakers that this is definitely a waste of resources.
The[n] change the laws.
That's what we're trying to do by flouting the laws publicly. Civil disobedience, I think that's what Thoreau called it. Something about 'the only place for an honest man in an unjust society is jail'.
But that's my only power because the mass of this country is too lazy and/or delusional to consider that an individual's private drug use is none of their business, and if they're not going to even consider such a thing, they're certainly not going to go march on Washington on my behalf. And that's the block of the population I must rely on to try to "change the laws". Well, I suppose I could spend hundreds of millions of dollars on lobbyists and bundled campaign contributions and just buy the law like everyone else in the last 30 years who has managed to "change the laws". Oh, wait.... I don't have a hundred million dollars. Oh well, no justice for me.
individual's private drug use is none of their business,
Really..you would fly in an airplane which had a pilot that privately used drugs? That is my buisness.
Of course not. No more than I can get drunk and fly an airplane. That affects you. But that doesn't mean that alcohol should be banned. Not even for pilots. Just for a day or two before they fly.
This is about individual liberty
So, if I take LSD just a couple of days before I fly...I am good?
Yes, because LSD only stays in your body for a few days and effects are over after 24 hours.
However, I'm sure many companies wouldn't want pilots who use LSD, so wouldn't allow it.
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